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Been chopping up UDeeTs

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G, any knowledge to share about fins for wider, bigger feet?

I'm size UK-10.5, US-11; about 28 cm long and 9.5 cm wide (sure, there's longer and wider). I was recommended to get the XL size in Duck Feet. I do like these fins but after 9 months or so they've given me hell and I'm now sporting some rather gnarly knobbles on a few toe knuckles and the outside of each foot (down from the little toe).

Harden up princess? Perhaps. My feet are certainly not cramped at the toes, just width. I've been offered a new recommendation to suss out the 'new' UDTs (via Sean at seacraftsupplyco - yes, off the back of your recent instagram post) as they have a wider foot pocket compared with the Ducks.

I had been leaning to the DaFins too but how much are you compromising the propulsion of the Ducks (and UDTs?) for the 'soft foot pocket' of the DaFins?

The waves I'm surfing here in Ireland are often long pointbreaks and often days can be head-high and others well over-head (standing up hea-dhigh as opposed to matting head-high; what's that 3/4 of a foot?).
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Mate you have the same size feet as me with the same width issues. XL isn't big enough with socks for Duckfeet and even XXL squeezes my foot in a 4mm sock.

Now here is the interesting bit. I think the "drive" of Duckfeet is a myth. A while back I did a comparison between XXL DaFin and XXL Ducks and guess what... The DaFin blade area was slightly bigger! Add to that the floppy nature of the Ducks (with a rock hard foot pocket) compared to the snap of the DaFin and I don't think they come close personally.

(all swimfin opinions are just that)

You MUST go for the bigger DaFin though and pad them at the heel though to get this benefit.

On to the UDeeTs... Different thing entirely. The green rubber is harder and the brown super soft. As you can see on the fins, the green runs down the ribs. So you have a great big fin with softer fit pockets and done rigidity in the ribs and soft rubber in between. Lots and lots of drive and (unlike Duckfeet) you don't have to wait 4-5 kicks to get moving! (My experience)

I still think DaFin win on slabs and wedges, but reefs and points I don't think anything beats UDeeTs.

One set of each is the perfect combo.

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I'm with G - have a pair of each.
If I had to chose I'd keep the UDeeTs because of the thrust.
DaFins are much lighter and easier to lug around or pack into a suitcase, though.
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Ahh lads, this is deadly - cheers. 

Like you say G, opinions are just that but online you can quickly find yourself in the abyssal depths beneath them. Finding someone close to your own situation can be invaluable.

So, what sizes are you running for both the UDTs and the DaFins?

Hmm, and here's another curve for the mix. We've possibly another year left here in Ireland (similar year-round temp. to the UK?) before moving back to Australia, probably Queensland (warm year-round), possibly back to Tasmania (similar temperatures to Ireland for both Summer and Winter). 

For the knobbles I reckon the socks have to be the way forward regardless of temperature if the foot pocket is tough. Thoughts there?

This is great!
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Biggest size again with heel straps to make sure you don't lose them.

I think with any fins it's worth padding out to get a bigger fin bit definitely with the Voits. The foot pocket is still a bit narrower than the DaFin but it manages my 3mm socks and Kovert had found that his have stretched to allow 4mm over time so they do break in.

If you get some, get them from Starky. He's a good man.

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Biggest size...

Given that you reckon we've got the same size feet (big AND ugly) you're running with what, XL UDTs and DaFins?

I'm sure everyone has lamented about not being able to try the buggers on before throwing down the shekels. Import to Ireland these are going to be €100 for either UDTs or DaFs. It'd be nice, as they say here, 'to be sure, to be sure'...
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XXL for both mate. XL ain't big enough.

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I have thick wedge shaped rectangles on the bottom of my legs and have tried a million fins to find ones that are wide enough and thick enough. I'm 8.5-9 shoe but really wide and the XL UDT's fit me well now with a tiny bit of slack around the strap from being slowly broken in via 2mm/3mm and now can wear 4mm socks! Amazing fins no doubt. I couldn't get on with XL Da Fins they still pinched my feet width ways even though they are generous!

The UDT's have softened beautifully and no doubt the best for mat riding! Full leg work out mind.

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very odd the original theory behind the udt was to make a very stiff foot pocket with a much softer blade.
from your description it seems this latest batch is  backwards from that .

i have a og pair from deets first runs im still using . red and black marbled rubber . super stiff foot pocket and brutally tight heel straps.
they are completely unmodified and have the best  flex and feel of any fin i have ever owned. deets himself inspected them and claimed they were perfect flex .

they feel like im wearing  fly swatters on my feet a tiny flick and i can make the  tip flutter like  a whip.



PS; Deets came up with the idea after he had his fins blown off his  feet  on a huge day at wedge.
he went back on shore and had his  fins duct taped  to his feet and wrapped up tight around his foot pocket.
he said the extra drive was noticeable and they felt much better then normal and thats when  he got the lightbulb moment
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... tiny flick and i can make the tip flutter like a whip.


Filthy bugger.

The blades are still very flexible but just have that extra bit of support. The brown is super duper soft so it just stops them being like complete jelly. Probably equates to the black/reds.

The foot box is still solid but more like Churchills solid than concrete block solid. I have the ankles of an 8 year old girl and the old UDT's nearly snapped my feet off!

The new Duckfeet have the super flappy blades still.

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Great bit of background! I certainly wouldn't say they are 'soft' but have softened from when they were box fresh. Perfect whip on them. I am tempted to trim the little extra bump off the tip though...
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Brown green UDT'S are my fin to go to I thought after I had read everything I would be a walking cripple
But these work I use xxl with 5mm sox or two pair of 1.5's in warm water this works but after 3 weeks next to big toe is growing big blister to callus but 5mm bootie no worries, I have gone through most fins xxl duck great for kneeboarding but not for mat surfing same as Churchill's
Never did get on with DA's weird some do some don't.
Just my penny worth.
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I used to dig Churchills on the wrong feet for kneeboarding way back.

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Here's a shot of the bottom:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fwddbbohydwx3ak/20150430_134611.jpg?dl=0

Like DaFin, the bottom of the foot pocket is hard.

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